Israel-Gaza - (No More Emails)

 

I have multiple identities which intersect in being significant parts of myself.   Being an "Aspie" goes along with being  white, male, hettish, Jewish, uppermiddle class  and within the Identities are other snippets of myself.  My "Aspie" essence  along with what my parents, particularly my father helped (or not) me learn was that we were (are) "different"  no identification with  "fitting in" and being "normative"  related for example to us not having Television, going to see "a great movie"  not going to "the movies", as well as clothes were handmedowns and the cheapest clothes possible from Sears, Penneys and Montgomery Wards.   

With respect to Judaism  my (paternal) grandfather Moses Marx taught my father  and he believed that being Jewish was a Very Important part of his Identity.   They both believed that  Synagogues and Temples  were "show places"   not where one's "religion" was best developed  but rather the place for a social world (which neither felt helpful/important).   Judaism  was taught  at home  was familial  and for us was shared with fellow Jews  at Seders, and perhaps in our Sukkoh.

I believe that there's no word 'hettish' in English.

I am not a “Dictionary”, nor am I a “Thesaurus”.

Do you think that I care?

(Part of my most recent emailed words) “Stated simply I would posit that:  "October 7th was Both a horrific, horrible set of Actions, as well as Inevitable, given the history of Palestine-Israel.

When one looks at October 7th - solely as a single - isolated "event" - it appears as comparable to the Atomic Bomb detonation in Hiroshima.   To me, it has similarities, but also major, major differences.

For me an apt quote follows:

“In March 1919,on the eve of the post World War I Paris Peace Conference, ‘Julius Kahn, the German-born Jewish congressman from San Francisco, delivered to President Wilson “A Statement to the Peace Conference” endorsed by 299 Jews.  …[T]he document denounced the Zionists for attempting to segregate Jews and to reverse the historical trend toward emancipation.’  Its signers ‘objected to the creation of a distinctly Jewish state in Palestine’ not only because they feared it would jeopardize the status of Jews like themselves in the home countries, but because they found it ‘contrary “to the principles of democracy’ to elevate Jewish immigrants over Palestine’s Muslim and Christian native inhabitants.  They explicitly denied ‘the existence of ethnic ties among Jews’ and ‘asserted their wish not to see Palestine “either now or at any time in the future’ become a Jewish state.’  They petitioned instead for Palestine to be ‘made into an independent , free, and democratic state that would not recognize any distinctions of creed, race, or ethnic descent among its citizens.’ “ (18) (p. xii)

Julius Kahn - was a reactionary/very conservative - elite politician - who also - defended grossly racist treating of East-Asian immigrants to the U.S., but here I think that in some ways, his (along with others) words of 1919 - may have been the "Last Real Chance" for a peaceful, just resolution of - what became Israel - through the present (I hope, long-term wise we will find a "new" permanent solution.  I'm not optimistic that it will come in my lifetime.)

Jabotinsky - no "liberal egalitarian" or hero of mine (Peter Beinart and Rashid Khalidi and Noura Erakat and others have influence me in this) - was - Totally On Target - in being clear - that "Israel" - as a Future State - was going to Only be a reality through "defeating the Arabs" (my specific words) - who would fight seeking Palestine - that it was a "binary" - contrary to the vision of what Julius Kahn believed - Should Have Been created.

For me - a "real Israel" - "should" have been either some type of "two state solution" or a "single democratic state", neither of which should have been based upon - either:

1. A historic - "Right" - to - The Land, nor

2. A core belief - that The Jewish People are "better" than the Palestinian People.

I see Hamas and October 7th - as having become 100% inevitable - (the latter not necessarily is Exactly how it transpired - but in a manner of a "radical - military-killing of ('innocent') people" - because - all other avenues of - a Peaceful Resolution - of the core issues - had been 100% eliminated, Not by the Palestinian People, but rather by the actions of the Israeli Military/Government - strongly supported by the financial and political support of the U.S. Government.

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Ultimately it is a Very Dangerous - TRAGEDY - that continues and may be even growing - now day-by-day, month-by-month.

Abbas - is a corrupt, inept, aging politician.   Hamas - would/will ultimately fail - being held together - by the tactical and moral - failures of Israel and more importantly The U.S.   Fear - and through Deep Fear - Hatred - is making "peace" more and more unlikely.   War - and Violence - is not a Positive force - and will never resolve the core issues.

White people fear Black People far more than Black People fear white people.   Black People are in much more danger, due to racism, than white people.    Men ultimately fear Women far more than Women fear men.   Domestic Violence and Rape - are much more commonly - Men threatening, killing and injuring Women than other gendered-life situations.

Ultimately - the fears of the (vast majority of the) Israeli (Jews) - are of another Holocaust - "From The River to the Sea" meaning the Killing of the Jews.    Obviously, there are Palestinian People who wish to "kill the Jews".    

Noura Erakat with Me - Berkeley - 2023

I have met Rashida Tlaib and Noura Erakat.   They are two Palestinian-Americans I admire greatly. “



“I have read a tremendous amount of writing and listened/watched the words of many, many people -some "experts" many - not so perceptive.   

If I am "naive" or "hoodwinked" or similar - it is Not from not seeking - "truths" - I reject the word:  "The Truth" - through assimilating the views of a wide variety of others - from - extremely Contradictory of my view of things to others, who I may agree with in significant part, while I feel that they are missing important points.

I clearly remember being in Israel - circa 1981 - for Israeli Independence Day.  I clearly remember first arriving in Israel - during the day in 1963 - when Pesach began that evening (we were at a Seder that evening held in our honor).   I clearly remember - staying in Jerusalem with my (maternal) grandfather in August, 1968 - the first Jewish Tour group - staying in a hotel in East Jerusalem.  I walked each evening - through the darkness - to The King David Hotel - where the only other non-old person on our tour - was staying (she was in college, I was about to enter my senior year at WLHS).

My perspective evolved over the years.    I hope, against hope, that - the U.S. - will eventually change its perspective on Israel and the Palestinians.    As the Dominant Power in the World - we - The U.S.People/Government - have more impact upon the rest of the world than others do.   We, in the U.S. - are a distinct minority in the World - in various ways - isolating ourselves.   In the decades of the future - assuming a prevent of a nuclear end to our existence - I believe that:

1. Oil - will no longer - dominate - "the strategic interests" of the U.S. - and 

2. Israel - similar to - Panama, Nicaragua, and others countries will discover - that they - don't matter to - The U.S. - and will be abandoned (leaving Israel isolated and likely reliant on the potential use of its Nuclear Weapons),

3. The U.S. - will become no longer - The Dominant Power in the World - the Chinese seem more likely to become dominant - though India or even other countries could become dominant

I hope - against hope - that both people in the U.S. and in Israel - will realize that the necessity of seeking "Peace" - will make it necessary to risk - a lot - trust - in a just peace - with the Palestinian People - and that it will become Possible.

I find the perspectives of Jonathan Kuttab - a Jerusalem resident - Palestinian - Christian- hopeful - not "the truth".    I have hopes - that from within (Jewish) Israel - voices of "reason" - which are present - will grow. 

Will such people and the causes they push forth - "succeed" or be "the right way"?   I have no idea!

I hope so!

I am not optimistic - that things will change for the better - as far as I can see into the future.   Iran's leadership - is both "tactical" - now - and HORRIBLE - oppressing their own people horribly.    Syria - is potentially - a HUGE PROBLEM.   Lebanon- is a deeply messed up place!

 

Israel - with the strong support of the U.S. - is seeking to control - its - current reality - militarily - in Gaza, Iran, Syria, Lebanon - as well as within The West Bank and what I refer to as "Israel".

 

No one I know believes - that a lasting peace - a just peace - is possible - in the short-term.   If there was - or becomes a "Ceasefire" - I am Not optimistic - because I don't see - a concern for:

1. The Palestinian People, nor 2. The (Jewish) People of Israel.

The hostages - held by Hamas - are clearly not valued by the Israeli Leadership (my view).   The normative - Israeli Jews - are not valued by the Israeli leadership (my view).   While I see no - simple - "conspiracy" - systemically - I see - a concern - for "profits" and "power" - which supercede concern for most of us- "normal people".

I believe that Israel and more importantly The U.S. - control things far, far more than others do.  The leadership - of most of the countries, if not all of them in the Middle East - besides Israel - have little concern for the Palestinian People. 

Ultimately - I see a world (related to Israel) of Zionism - where the strongest forces in the U.S. supporting Israel - are the "Christian Zionists" - who - ultimately envision - us all literally dying - upon the "return of Jesus".    The vast major of people in the U.S. know little about - the realities which I am trying to speak of, nor do they really care most, if not all of the time.

While I have a sense of despair and anger, I continue to try my best - to help build a better world, a just world.  I wish - that you and I could dialogue - but that seems not likely to work.

This response - is NOT what you asked for.  The alternative for me was silence.   I chose the former.   I've written it - unedited.   It's not "great" but the best that I can do now.”

 

Around 1981 – I visited with a cousin (not first) – an older woman in Jerusalem.   She told me a story which has had deep meaning from the moments she spoke through today.

She and her husband had owned a custom dress shop in Jerusalem beginning in the 1930’s – after they’d emigrated from Germany (no doubt due to the rise of Hitler in 1933).   Their customers were wealthy women – both Jewish and Palestinian.   (Note:  Those not wealthy could not have afforded to pay for a dress to be specially made for them.)

Shortly after the 1967, she recalled that an old Palestinian man came into her store.   He asked of her husband.   When she told him that he’d passed away, he began to cry.

He had been a porter – working for them – prior to the 1948 – “War of Independence” (for me now: The Naqba).   He’d then been – in East Jerusalem – land that Jordan ruled over.   There was no way – that he – a Palestinian man – now in “another country” – could have further contact with the two of them.

My cousin told me – clearly fondly remembering – that this old Palestinian Man – had asked to carry her bags – whenever she came to The Old City  - the walled in area of East Jerusalem.   For the next several years, until he passed away, she saw him – as he had requested.  

The Man – would not take any money from her.   (He was loyal – most loyal.)   Her story – was one of speaking of how – she, a Jewish, Israeli Woman – felt a connection – one – that one in this time period – would not have otherwise been spoken of.

I’ve heard other stories – of Palestinian People – circa 1947-8 – warning – Jewish – people they’d known – warning them – to leave – immediately – to avoid – being attacked (and potentially killed).

Obviously – both such relationships – were “not the norm” and also were not rare.

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Needless Deaths – so, so many of them!   Sad!   At the same time – for me – for my reality – it is not: 

“radicals on both sides” – have created the Great Divide – that exists (today)!

The “Balance Beam” – has 1000 pounds on one side – and perhaps 10-100 pounds – on the other side!

The Palestinians – can not “make peace” or “help make peace” – unless “Peace” is seen – as Apartheid – Death – Literally – for many – and Oppression – Deepening Oppression.

The Fears – of my former Classmate – mirror – the Fears of the vast Majority of Israeli Jews!   The Houthi People – of Yemen – are facing – massive military – attacks – from the Air – and the threat – that their leadership will be “assassinated”.   They are “The Terrorists”!   Their Deep Crime – is supporting – Strongly Supporting – the Palestinian People of Gaza!   The Bombings from the Air – continue – along with – the attempt to stop – “the terrorists” – of Israel, the West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria – and most ominously of Iran.

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persianکودتای ۲۸ مرداد), was the U.S.- and British-instigated, Iranian army-led overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favor of strengthening the autocratic rule of the shahMohammad Reza Pahlavi, on 19 August 1953, with the objectives being to protect British oil interests in Iran after its government refused to concede to western oil demands.[5][6] It was instigated by the United States (under the name TP-AJAX Project[7] or Operation Ajax) and the United Kingdom (under the name Operation Boot).[8][9][10][11] This began a period of dissolution for Iranian democracy and society whose effects on civil rights are prevalent to this day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#:~:text=The%201953%20Iranian%20coup%20d,Mohammad%20Reza%20Pahlavi%2C%20on%2019

The (later) Iranian Revolution – which resulted in the oppressive leadership of Iran – came about – in reaction to what is described above.   We hear about these clear facts – rarely – if at all in the U.S.   MSNBC and CNN – do not speak of them more than rarely, if at all!

Let’s not forget – that the Balfour Declaration of 1917 – came during World War I.   At the time – that a home for The Jewish People was promised by the British Government, Palestine – the part of the Middle East – that includes what became Israel – was a part or the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire.   Why the British and French Empires – should have had – control over much of the Middle East – after World War I seems – “wrong, wrong, wrong” to me.   Particularly Wrong – were the promises made to the Jewish People – that promised them a “home land” – while the Palestinian People were promised – “rights” – which proved largely to be illusory!   The Blame – of course – has been placed on the Palestinian People – who continue to be Starved, and Attacked and ….   (December 27, 2024)

 

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As children – our families were friends!   The Older George – is No Longer To Be in Contact with Him!

I seemingly refuse to acknowledge the obvious Truths he sees!

Israel – has sought peace – but the Palestinian People have Repeatedly Rejected – the Numerous Reasonable Efforts of Israel!

I Do Not – Buy this Narrative!   I acknowledge the Legitimate Anger He has – towards me!   It isn’t Simply that we Disagree!

My Disagreements – my Stubborness – has ended his willingness to listen – evermore – to Me – reaching out – from Richmond, California – to wherever in Israel he lives – his country of residence – of Deep Love from when he was roughly 18 or 19 years old – to the present – when he is roughly 75 years old!

I Did Not try to – Offend Him.  I tried to honestly answer his questions, though my Explanation was Far Longer – more Detailed – than he could possibly of Expected!

Does he think I’m virtually or totally 100% Wrong?   I don’t know, and honestly – I don’t really Care!

I am not Angry, nor am I Sad!   I’ve spoken my piece.   He – broken – the barrier – I suggested – that we “not talk politics”.

I’ll move backwards perhaps two days!

“While I suspect that our - "political perspective" - remains - WILDLY DIFFERENT, we are still human beings, former classmates, members of the (WL) Jewish Community and similar.”

I have no idea why you would choose to open this email on such a confrontational note. You and I have no idea what each other's political views on Israel are, especially following the events of October 7, 2023.

Well, I believe – that my words were not intentionally “confrontational”.   I sought, in vain as it turned out, to avoid – a Significant (increased) Division – between the two of us.  

We do Speak a Different Language.  Our views of “Reality” – are Quite Different related to Israel and October 7th – and the Palestinian People.

 

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